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July 10, 2009

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Tom Hoffman

It is also worth noting that TFA spends almost $30,000 a recruit on... something. That ought to pay for more than five weeks of training.

Barnett Berry

Great point Tom. And it costs about $18,000 (at least) to replace a teacher who leaves.

Kathie Marshall

Thanks for stating so eloquently and clearly what roils beneath the surface of a broader topic of experienced versus young, energetic teachers. We certainly heard a lot on this topic in Los Angeles USD when non-tenured teachers, many of whom are young, energetic, and committed teachers, lost their jobs to older, tenured teachers. Teachers and union reps didn't envision us as pitted against each other, with the undeserving side winning over the deserving side. We picketed together; the union fought for its young members; I fought back disappointed tears in our last faculty meeting as those who were being shoved out were asked to stand. However, rather than spending whatever it takes to train a temporary TFA teacher, I'd like to see the growth of truly effective teacher training programs across the country and partnerships that support novice teachers, especially in urban areas like mine. In the end, I'm still bothered by the opening remark about how hard it is to find good teachers.

Barnett Berry

Kathie. Sometimes (maybe often) I think that the young versus old, inexpensive versus expensive teacher debate is fabricated by those policy elites and wonks who want to see classroom teachers divided with no collective voice and few tools for joint action. Or maybe -- with a revolving door of novices — penny-pinching, controlling administrators can ensure teachers are cheap and compliant. There are 4 million teachers in this nation of ours. To think that only one class of teachers is good and the others bad is a mind-bloggling and data devoid proposition. Our nation is blessed by your 34 years of public school teaching and all the children you have served so well. Why Paul Vallas would not want you and many other expert, seasoned teachers like you is a part fascinating, part depressing state of affairs. TFAers - like the ones who struggled in the Merrow piece on PBS -- would be much more effective if Mr. Vallas had you there to mentor and support them. One more thought: Onward with Teachers Leaders Network!

Claus

Thanks for a wonderful post that deftly cuts through the either/or thinking that characterizes so much of the current policy debate.

The questions you raise--and possible solutions you propose--will become especially important as the administration embarks on a challenging plan to turn around low-performing schools. The preparation, recruitment, retention and support of teachers under those specific conditions will be critical.

Barnett Berry

There are many "and/both" answers to the teaching quality and effectiveness questions currently being posed. One issue is how to identify and reward individual teachers versus whole schools that perform well or not. Claus, how about putting most of the emphasis on small teams of teachers. (This does not mean that the evaluation of individual teachers need not to change.)

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